Changelog Interviews – Episode #641

NATS and the CNCF kerfuffle

with Derek Collison, CEO of Synadia

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Derek Collison — creator of NATS and Co-founder & CEO of Synadia — joins the show to dive into the origins, design, and evolution of NATS, a high-performance, open-source messaging system built for modern cloud-native systems and part of the CNCF. Derek shares the story behind NATS, what makes it unique, and unpacks the recent tensions between Synadia and the CNCF over the future of the project.

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Chapters

1 00:00 This week on The Changelog 01:06
2 01:07 Sponsor: Heroku 03:42
3 04:49 Start the show! 01:43
4 06:32 When did NATS start? 04:29
5 11:01 Huge adoption for NATS 06:05
6 17:06 Ladybird + Swift 04:39
7 21:45 I'm still in the technical trenches of NATS 01:09
8 22:54 We should build a business around this 03:57
9 26:51 Future of modern distributed systems 03:00
10 29:51 Sponsor: Retool 01:47
11 31:38 Kerfuffle with CNCF 06:45
12 38:23 Was CNCF's blog post a surprise? 05:35
13 43:58 How clear were the requirements and expectations? 11:01
14 54:58 Did you try to take your ball and go home? 05:40
15 1:00:39 Sponsor: Outshift by Cisco 01:05
16 1:01:44 Goals for leaving the CNCF hotel? 06:10
17 1:07:54 Did NATS turnover the IP and trademark? 04:37
18 1:12:31 Did you sign a clear agreement with terms spelled out? 06:23
19 1:18:55 Commercial BSL fork vs open core 04:12
20 1:23:07 There's SO MUCH nuance in this 09:54
21 1:33:00 Rug pull, not cool. No pay, not OK. 00:54
22 1:33:55 Closing thoughts and stuff 02:25

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