Changelog Interviews – Episode #644

We're all Builders now

with Amanda Silver, CVP Microsoft DevDiv

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We’re on location at Microsoft Build 2025 with Amanda Silver, Corporate Vice President of Microsoft’s Developer Division. Amanda leads product, design, user research, and engineering systems for some of the tools you use every day. We discuss the latest AI announcements from Microsoft at Build 2025, how AI is reshaping development tools, what’s next for VS Code, TypeScript, GitHub’s evolution, and even emerging editors like Windsurf that are forking the VS Code ecosystem.

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Chapters

1 00:00 This week on The Changelog 01:03
2 01:03 Sponsor: Retool 01:59
3 03:07 Start the show! 03:24
4 06:31 Microsoft has changed 06:16
5 12:46 Hostility toward Microsoft 05:54
6 18:40 Sponsor: Heroku 03:06
7 21:46 VS Code as a distrobution platform 05:09
8 26:55 Is developer tooling a lousy business? 03:51
9 30:46 Guard rails for AI 04:25
10 35:11 AI vs AI 01:47
11 36:58 Code modernization with AI 07:24
12 44:22 Autonomous agents 02:18
13 46:40 Sponsor: Outshift by Cisco 01:03
14 47:44 "Secret Agent" should be a thing 06:33
15 54:17 Orchestrating AI 03:15
16 57:32 Predictions for this time next year 05:24
17 1:02:57 VS Code vs Windsurf (VS Code forks) 03:12
18 1:06:09 Is Windsurf competition? 03:35
19 1:09:44 Software is not built in a chat 02:44
20 1:12:29 Wrapping up 00:09
21 1:12:38 Changelog.com/live !!!! 02:20

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