This week we’re joined by long-time web developer Matt Patterson. Earlier this year Matt wrote an evocative article for A List Apart called The Future of Web Software Is HTML-over-WebSockets. In this episode Matt sits down with Jerod to discuss, in-detail, why he believes the future of the web is server-rendered (again) and how Ruby on Rails is well positioned to bring that future to us today.

Wynn and Micheil sat down with Peter Griess from Yahoo Mail, Martyn Loughran from Pusher App, and Guillermo Rauch from Socket.IO to talk about Websockets.