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Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #629

Programming with LLMs

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2025-02-19T19:00:00Z 🎧 15,540

For the past year, David Crawshaw has intentionally sought ways to use LLMs while programming, in order to learn about them. He now regularly use LLMs while working and considers their benefits a net-positive on his productivity. David wrote down his experience, which we found both practical and insightful. Hopefully you will too!

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #627

Build software that lasts!

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2025-02-05T20:15:00Z 🎧 20,677

After 30+ years in the software industry, Bert Hubert has experienced a lot. He founded PowerDNS, published articles for places like IETF / IEEE, and built his own parliament monitoring system. That just scratches the surface.

Recently, Bert wrote about what it takes to build software for the long term. Let’s dig in.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #626

Turso is rewriting SQLite in Rust

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2025-01-30T13:00:00Z #sqlite +1 🎧 20,397

Glauber Costa, co-founder and CEO of Turso, joins us to discuss libSQL, Limbo, and how they’re rewriting SQLite in Rust. We discuss their efforts with libSQL, the challenge of SQLite being in the public domain but not being open for contribution, their choice to rewrite everything with Limbo, how this all plays into the future of the Turso platform, how they test Limbo with Deterministic Simulation Testing (DST), and their plan to replace SQLite.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #625

From open source to acquired

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2025-01-23T14:00:00Z #oss +1 🎧 18,286

Ashley Jeffs shares his journey with Benthos, an open source stream processor that was acquired by Redpanda. We talk about the evolution of data streaming technologies, the challenges he faced while growing the project, the decision to bootstrap versus seek venture capital, and what ultimately led to the acquisition. We discuss reactions to licensing changes, what it’s like to have your thing acquired, the challenging yet fulfilling nature of open source work, what’s next for Benthos, and what it takes to enjoy the journey.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #621

Building the developer cloud

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2024-12-12T14:00:00Z #cloud +1 🎧 21,136

Kurt Mackey is back for a deep dive into what it takes to build the developer cloud. Kurt joins Adam to discuss the alliance between companies and cloud, something Kurt refers to as the “Rebel Alliance,” cloud complexity vs usability, Fly’s future with Postgres and why they’ve waited, thoughts on Neon and Supabase (Kurt shares a hot take), and our CDN saga and plan to build a simple CDN on Fly called Pipely (still a Pipedream).

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #618

Two tickets for Departure, please

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2024-11-20T19:30:00Z #fonts +2 🎧 20,164

Today we’re joined by a dynamic duo, Helena Zhang & Tobias Fried, who team up on all sorts of digital passion projects. This includes the wildly popular Phosphor Icons plus their latest joint, Departure Mono, a monospaced pixel font with a lo-fi technical vibe… that both Adam & Jerod are pretty much in love with. We discuss their tastes & inspirations, how they collab, making money on passion projects like these, velvet ropes & so much more.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #616

ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols

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2024-11-06T22:30:00Z #oss +2 🎧 21,097

The hallway track at All Things Open 2024 — features Carl George, Principal Software Engineer at Red Hat for a discussion on the state of open source enterprise linux and RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux), Max Howell, creator of Homebrew and tea.xyz which offers rewards and recognition to open source maintainers, and Chad Whitacre, Head of Open Source at Sentry about the launch of Open Source Pledge and their plans to helps businesses and orgs to do the right thing and support open source.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #615

Rails is having a moment (again)

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2024-10-31T20:45:00Z #rails +3 🎧 23,548

(Includes expletives) David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), creator of Ruby on Rails and co-owner of 37signals, joined the show to discuss this Rails moment and renewed excitement for Rails. We discuss hard opinions, developers being cooked too long in the JavaScript soup, finding developer joy, the pros and cons of the BDFL, the ongoing WordPress drama with WP Engine, and what’s to come in Rails 8.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #614

Elasticsearch is open source, again

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2024-10-24T15:00:00Z #startups +2 🎧 20,702

Shay Banon, the creator of Elasticsearch, joins us to discuss pulling off a reverse rug pull. Yes, Elasticsearch is open source, again! We discuss the complexities surrounding open source licensing and what made Elastic change their license, the implications of trademark law, the personal and business impact of moving away from open source, and ultimately what made them hit rewind and return to open source.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #613

Lessons from 10k hours of programming (Remastered)

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2024-10-17T21:00:00Z #practices +1 🎧 21,373

This week we’re going back in time to one of our top performing shows of all time where we talk with Matt Rickard about his blog post Reflections on 10,000 Hours of Programming. These reflections are about deliberately writing code for 10,000 hours. Most don’t apply to beginners. He was clear to mention that these reflections are purely about coding, not career advice or soft skills. If you count the reflections we cover on the show and be the first to comment the amount of reflections on this thread in Zulip, we’ll give you a coupon code to use for a 100% free t-shirt from the merch store. Good luck…

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #612

The Moneyball approach

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2024-10-10T17:15:00Z #startups +1 🎧 23,869

John Nunemaker joins us to share his new thesis for acquiring Rails based SaaS apps. He’s early days on his next big thing called Very Good Software and recently acquired Fireside, a podcast hosting service started by Dan Benjamin. This comes after many years since John’s acquisition of a lifetime of Speakerdeck to GitHub, which laid the foundation for these moves.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #611

Free-threaded Python

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2024-10-02T18:30:00Z #python 🎧 24,857

Jerod is joined by the co-hosts of core.py , Pablo Galindo & Łukasz Langa, a podcast about Python internals by people who work on Python internals. Python 3.13 is right around the corner, which means the Global Interpeter Lock (GIL) is now experimentally optional! This is a huge deal as Python is finally free-threaded. There’s more to discuss, of course, so we get into all the gory details.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #610

Leveling up JavaScript with Deno 2

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2024-09-26T15:30:00Z #deno +2 🎧 23,793

Jerod is joined by Ryan Dahl to discuss his second take on leveling up JavaScript developers all around the world. Jerod asks Ryan why not try to fix or fork Node instead of starting fresh, how Deno (the open source project) can avoid the all too common rug pull (not cool) scenario, what’s new in Deno 2 & their pragmatic decision to support npm, they talk JSR, they talk Deno KV & SQLite, they even talk about Ryan’s open letter to Oracle in an attempt to free the unused “JavaScript” trademark from the giant’s clutches.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #609

The best, worst codebase

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2024-09-18T20:30:00Z 🎧 23,141

Jimmy Miller talks to us about his experience with a legacy codebase at his first job as a programmer. The codebase was massive, with hundreds of thousands of lines of C# and Visual Basic, and a database with over 1,000 columns. Let’s just say Jimmy got into some stuff. There’s even a Gilfoyle involved. This episode is all about his adventures while working there.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #608

Building customizable ergonomic keyboards

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2024-09-12T14:25:00Z #hardware +2 🎧 30,533

Erez Zukerman shares the story of launching the ErgoDox EZ on Indiegogo (May 2015), what it takes to create customizable ergonomic keyboards, the benefits of split keyboards and custom key layouts, repairability and longevity, community engagement, and the attention to detail required in everything they create. We talk through their keyboard lineup, our personal experience with how we mouse and keyboard…we cover it all.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #607

Open source threaded team chat?!

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2024-09-05T17:00:00Z #oss +2 🎧 32,068

We’re joined by Alya Abbott from Zulip, the open source, organized, threaded, team chat for distributed teams of all sizes. We talk about Zulip’s origins, how it’s open source, the way it’s led, no VC funding, what makes it different/better, how you can self-host it or use their cloud, moving to Zulip, contributing and being a part of the community…all the things.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #606

Reinventing Kafka on object storage

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2024-08-29T18:00:00Z #cloud +1 🎧 33,474

Ryan Worl, Co-founder and CTO at WarpStream, joins us to talk about the world of Kafka and data streaming and how WarpStream redesigned the idea of Kafka to run in modern cloud environments directly on top of object storage. Last year they posted a blog titled, “Kafka is dead, long live Kafka” that hit the top of Hacker News to put WarpStream on the map. We get the backstory on Kafka and why it’s so widely used, who created it and for what purpose, and the behind the scenes on all things WarpStream.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #605

Flavors of Ship It!

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2024-08-21T17:55:00Z #ops +4 🎧 33,621

Flavors of Ship It on The Changelog — if you’re not subscribed to Ship It yet, do so at shipit.show or by searching for “Ship it” wherever you listen to podcasts. Every week Justin Garrison and Autumn Nash explore everything that happens after git push — and today’s flavors include running infrastructure in space, managing millions of machines at Meta, and what it takes to control your 3D printer with OctoPrint.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #604

Why we need Ladybird

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2024-08-14T21:45:00Z #oss +2 🎧 36,191

Andreas Kling and Chris Wanstrath have joined forces to form a non-profit called Ladybird Browser Initiative to manage the newly forked Ladybird browser. We discuss what it’s going to take to get to alpha, the why behind Ladybird, avoiding incentives other than those of the users, their plans for incremental adoption of Swift as the successor language over C++, and of course what they hope Ladybird can achieve as a truly independent open source browser that’s for the people.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #603

Into the Bobiverse

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2024-08-07T20:30:00Z #culture 🎧 31,006

Dennis E. Taylor joins the show to take us “Into the Bobiverse” and other books he’s written. Dennis shares the backstory on how he went from programmer to author/writer and creator of Audible’s Best Science Fiction Book of 2016, his process for iterating and developing the story as he writes, plans for a Bobiverse movie, and what’s next in book 5 coming out in September 2024.

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #602

Open is the way

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2024-07-31T12:00:00Z #oss +2 🎧 33,833

Joseph Jacks (JJ) is back! We discuss the latest in COSS funding, his thesis for investing in commercial open source companies, the various rug pulls happening out there in open source licensing, and Zuck/Meta’s generosity releasing Llama 3.1 as “open source.”

Changelog Interviews Changelog Interviews #601

The man behind the Sandwich

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2024-07-24T19:00:00Z #apple +1
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Adam Lisagor (Sandwich Video founder) takes us behind the Sandwich to share his insights into the importance of storytelling in the tech industry, the value of helping Founders communicate their stories effectively, the details behind his new AI company, and the apps he’s making for Apple Vision Pro at Sandwich Vision.

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