Zed Shaw – creator of Mongrel, Learn Python the Hard Way, and more – joined the show to talk through a recent Twitter thread from Zed where he shared his thoughts on open source, making money in open source, corporate interests and involvement, developer culture, and more.

Wynn caught up with Zed Shaw’s non-rockstar alter ego to talk about Mongrel2, high performance web sites, guitar, and software community ponzi schemes.