Johnny Boursiquot: Redeem myself.

On Freund: Yeah. So Wilcoins are gonna have their fair share of ways to redeem for the really cool stuff. Even today, you can actually use them to buy hints. So when you tell Ness that you need some help, you might have to pay for that with Wilcoins. And that’s the difference between Wilcoins and experience points, because the experience points stay forever. It’s kind of like some airlines have the miles stay forever guarantee. But the Wilcoins are this stuff that comes and goes. You earn them, you use them…

The point is not to have – like, we’re not a social game that’s supposed to take all your money to buy fancy avatars or stuff like that. We’re not going to have you pay just to advance in the game. Our revenue stream is going to come from completely different–

Adam Stacoviak: Totally redeemed. [Dumb and Dumber extract] “Just when I think you couldn’t possibly be any dumber… You go and do something like this… AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF.” Maybe because I really wanna listen to them – like, I’ll listen to it if it’s on the Changelog’s feed. Okay, fine…

Aaron Parecki: So if we think back to our house key analogy - if you sent this coupon in the mail, you don’t really know who it went to. But instead of just sending it off to somebody in the mail, it had to be requested by somebody. So the request that came in would include a number, it would include that sum. You can write that down, create this coupon, send that in the mail… You’ve still got this number you’re holding on to, and now when someone comes back with that coupon to redeem it, they have to be able to prove they know that secret number. But it’s not just a secret number, it’s a hash, which means they have to actually know the actual ten numbers that they chose, that add up to that number. And then you know that the person walking up to you at the desk is the person that actually made that first request on the phone, for example.

Jerod Santo: We have friends at Manning. We’ve been working with them for a very long time, and they’ve been kind enough to give us three free eBook codes for Eric’s new book, Grokking Simplicity. Like you said, it’s in early access, but getting close to done now… And if you get it now, you’ll get the final version as the updates come out. So three to give away, and all you have to do to enter is just join the JS Party channel in our Slack, because we’re gonna keep it easy - we’re just gonna give it away to our friends in our JS Party of our Slack. So if you’re not in there, hop in at Changelog.com/community. Totally free, totally easy, and totally fun to hang out with us during the show, and in between shows as well.

Of course, if you do not win one of the three codes, we also have a coupon code for all Manning products. 20% off all Manning products. Use coupon code “podjsparty20” at checkout to redeem that.

Eric, this has been a great conversation. I feel like we really did just kind of scratch the surface, just some froth on the conversation… But you did a great job of explaining things to us, and answering all of Kball’s hardballs, and my softballs… Thanks for coming on JS Party, it’s been a lot of fun.

Adam Stacoviak: Oh, yeah. That’s why I love mountain-biking… Because mountain-biking is all about progressing. You’re a skilled rider only once you sort of gain these skills to conquer certain technical terrain, or decline terrain, so a decent of some sort, with some technical involved… So there’s definitely been several things as I become a better mountain-biker, which isn’t simply just getting on a bike and pedaling. It literally requires strength, and agility, it requires some sort of foresight in terms of the trail, being able to look far enough forward to see what’s coming up and how to prepare for it, and your stance, your ready stance, or whatever it might be.

So for me, there’s a place called Spider Mountain that I crashed pretty hard last year on. I love crashing, to some degree. It teaches you to get back up; it requires me to be resilient. That day, I was crushed. I had crashed hard enough, early enough in the day to ruin those whole entire trip for me… Because it conquered my courage for the day. But the resilience is that I’m not gonna stop mountain-biking because of this crash. It’s just gonna make me think “How can I now go back to that same spot eventually and conquer that thing?” And I’m working towards that.

Thankfully, the pandemic has happened and I haven’t had a chance – and Spider Mountain is now closed because of things, but one day it will be open again and we’ll be good to go. So I haven’t had my chance to redeem. But still, there’s terrain that I faced out there that I had once not gotten past, and now get past easily. So that’s how I look at it - this physical force against me. And also mental. It’s very much a mental game. If you look at your perspective of this thing as once big, and now you conquered it and it becomes small - well, that’s perspective.

Emma Bostian: I’m savage right now… Alright, well you’re up anyway. You’ve got a chance to redeem yourself.

Erik St. Martin: He’s got, wait, what’s our countdown here, 189 days to redeem himself. [laughter]

Tess Rinearson: Yeah, that’s definitely a thing you could do. You could have every attendee at GopherCon have their own asset that’s issued by their… One thing I didn’t really talk about, but if you’re familiar with Bitcoin or you’re probably familiar with mining - which is used for consensus, but it’s also the process by which new Bitcoin is created… And because you have a system for generic assets that often tie to real assets that are held somewhere else, assets on a blockchain are issued and are tied to a private key. Then, basically, to redeem your asset, you have to take it back to the asset issuer and say, “Hey, I see that you signed this with your key.”

[15:58] So what you could do at GopherCon is every attendee could issue their own asset, tied to their own key pair, and then maybe for each person you meet, you can issue them one token, and then whoever has the most tokens wins, or something.