This week on The Changelog weâre talking with Joe Reis about data engineering and the beginning of generative AI. We discuss phone hacking via frequency, the role of a data engineer, this AI hype cycle weâre in, build vs buy, the disconnect between data analysts and the business, ethical considerations around AI-generated content, and more. We also discuss the tension between AI and traditional engineering, as well as the inevitability of AI integration into pretty much everything.
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Adam Stacoviak: Well, I think if I canât distinguish it, then Iâm thinking whatâs the motivation? Whatâs the end game? Is it because you want to create more? So I think where the lines get blurred there i this kind of side conversation weâve had behind the scenes, which is âShould we have an artificial intelligence help us with our transcripts? Should we have artificial intelligence help us with a literal recreation of our podcast, in my voice, in a different language?â And weâve been talking about it behind the scenes.
Weâve seen that recent politician in Davos happened - like, that was super-cool. I could somehow literally listen to somebody that spoke in a whole different language, for a speech that I would often just discard, not because I donât care, but because I canât care, because I donât speak the language. I canât understand. So now we have this â just to paint the picture for those who are catching up or listening, there was a thing in Davos, there was somebody who - Iâm not sure of all the details; he spoke a foreign language in comparison to English for me. And typically, I would just not pay attention. But because somehow, someway, Iâm not sure how it happened, that was ran through some sort of artificial intelligence thing, and it was his voice as a politician, just as a normal person, staking his claim and sharing his ideas, but spoke in his native language, translated to English, in his own native voice. So itâs as if I heard the same person speaking English, and now I can understand. And I was like âOkay, thatâs cool. I can understand this person more.â That to me, I guess - when we talk about generated, what is the purpose of generation, I suppose? If itâs to pull the wool over my eyes, and entrap me, or ensnare me in some way in a scheme, then Iâm not for it. But if itâs for my betterment, and itâs for me, then I think Iâd probably be more aligned with it. But I think over time, even with the betterment side of it, and you canât discern it, itâs like, now you question everything, because youâre just not even sure if anything is for you or against you. Gosh, how doom and gloom is thatâŚ?